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Will Someone PLEASE Get Glenn Beck Some Zoloft?

October 16, 2009

Say what you will about Glenn Beck, I just can’t stand to see this man cry on national television again. This man seriously needs a prescription and some therapy. He’s rambling about “simpler times” and tearing up over old Coca-Cola commercials. Then there’s something about a party, and you smell like pot, and, man,  is your dad ever going to be pissed…I don’t know. Can you make any sense out of this? I’d love to read your comments

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25 Comments leave one →
  1. jlue permalink
    October 23, 2009 6:01 pm

    That we agree on! Hope you like what you are getting.

  2. jlue permalink
    October 23, 2009 11:20 am

    I wrote all of the above without addressing the one thing I needed to address most of all.

    What I find fascinating is that one would think that if this “redistribution” of wealth that the right is worried about came to pass, then everyone would be middle class. No rich, no poor.

    This isn’t what I or any other conservative that I know thinks. I think that there will be two classes – the haves and the have nots or rich and poor. Those in power will not allow themselves to become poor. Those who are prosperous now will not continue to prosper under high taxes and no real incentive to work harder. Over time, this produces a two class society.

  3. jlue permalink
    October 23, 2009 7:37 am

    Rutherford, I understand where you are coming from and that you feel since the rich are not doing enough to help the poor, the government should do that for them.

    Theoretically, that sounds like a good idea. History and even current events have proven that it will not work satisfactorily. Even if today’s politicians were able to determine just who is rich and should therefore have wealth taken away and who the wealth should be given to, there are problems that prevent it from working the way it should. Corruption is always present at some level in politics and often even in charities that minister to the poor.

    Just as a side, I notice that many of the very politicians who are talking about distributing the wealth through income tax increases, have been found guilty of not paying their own taxes.

    We are one of the richest countries on the planet. We have one of, if not the, highest standard of living. We have the least number of destitute. Notice I am stating destitute rather than poor. (To be “poor” is the USA is quite different than being “poor” in say the Yucatan peninsula. Our poor live better than most of the worlds non-poor.)

    I am rambling so I will try to get more concise and say what I am trying to say. In the USA, income tax is only paid by those who are productive. According to the IRS, the top 20% of workers paid 86.3% of all the taxes as of the year 2006. These are also the people who employ others. When they begin to cut back because of their tax burden, unemployment rises.

    The best way to help the “poor” is to give them opportunities to improve their situation through job training and employment opportunities. The destitute are able to apply for and receive Medicaid and help under programs such as WIC, TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) , Child Care Assistance program, and CHIP (children’s health insurance plan), and the food stamp program. Our country offers numerous programs to help the poor and the destitute.

    Even in these programs corruption abounds.

    I certainly agree with you that we should take care of those who are unable to take care of themselves. Our only disagreement is how this should be done.

    This blog post was originally about Glenn Beck. Beck probably epitomizes a large segment of our society who believe that a big bloated government produces more problems than it solves. Those who watch his show know that he uses buffoon tactics to gain the attention of his audience. What he actually says and the documentation he uses to back up his statements is extremely enlightening.

    When I began to discuss this with Cassandra and her other guest I said that perhaps she is a socialist and she does disagree with capitalism and free trade or free enterprise. Some people do. Under the first admendment of our constitution, you and I are both able to express our opinions.

    I am probably much older than you or her and I have seen first hand how our system allows people to move from poverty to middle class status. My parents did just that between 1941-1990. Millions of people in the south did the same. Beginning in the 1960’s the poor black families in the south were given equal rights under the law by the US government and began to receive the same opportunities under the law. Within the past twenty years numerous black families have moved from poverty level to middle or upper class living. I love this country and would not see it changed (other than lowering taxes and offering more jobs) if I were given my choice. I know our system works and while I was growing up I learned that communist and socialism does not work nearly as well.

  4. October 22, 2009 8:01 pm

    jlue, you have struck upon one of the most important functions of government, which is to protect the vulnerable from the human failings (greed) of their peers.

    What I find fascinating is that one would think that if this “redistribution” of wealth that the right is worried about came to pass, then everyone would be middle class. No rich, no poor. But we know full well that the redistribution most of us are interested in simply shortens the gap between the richest of the rich and the poorest of the poor.

    Why should a CEO make 200 times as much as his least paid employee? Why should we tolerate a society in which your income determines whether or not you get life saving health care?

    Many of the “filthy” rich do give loads to charity. I give as much as I can also (I’m not even modestly rich). It is still the job of government to provide for those who cannot provide for themselves, and that is done with the help of those who have more money than they know what to do with. I see nothing wrong with that.

  5. jlue permalink
    October 22, 2009 5:21 pm

    Rutherford, Why do you not just redistribute what you have without the government forcing you to do so? If all the big Hollywood elites and those in Washington who are “filthy” rich would just go ahead and distribute their millions to the poor, government would not be needed as a change agent. Whatdayathink?

  6. October 22, 2009 11:48 am

    I don’t think jlue got the memo that the cold war is over. The USSR is no more. China, for all its communism owns half of America and for one reason only … to make money (how socialist of them).

    “If you’re going to get antsy every time someone (including Obama) says something about “redistributive change”, etc., you’re going to be increasingly antsy in coming years.”

    Cassandra, I hope you’re right but I see a culture war of unprecedented proportions going on right now. I fear a backlash against Obama so forceful as to send us back to the dark ages. Progressives need to stay active and engaged.

  7. October 22, 2009 11:27 am

    jlue:

    The free market is well suited for some tasks. Other it is not. And a total reliance on free market comes with its own set of problems and consequences. On its own, it isn’t more perfect than anything else. (Except in a theoretical test tube, of course.)

    Other tasks are better suited for a governmental approach, especially ones that a free market will not address at all or where a free market solution is especially inefficient.

    Because someone acknowledges these facts and supports some sort of hybrid of the two approaches doesn’t necessarily make them a socialist or a communist. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t the knee jerk response to play that card. It’s just not a very helpful response.

  8. jlue permalink
    October 22, 2009 11:10 am

    Cassandra,
    If you are a socialist, that is your perogative.

    I do know the difference in socialism and communism and I am believing that you do as well, however, to make sure we are on the same page, I will define the two.

    Communism as it has existed and is usually known is a system of government and a system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. (Thus government control.) In addition the state own the means of production in a communist state.

    Socialism is an economic system and social organization whereby businesses and means of production are owned by the state while citizens are still allowed to hold or own property. While it is an economic system in theory it is also a form of government as state ownership requires government control to operate.

    Capitalism is an economic system characterized by free enterprise and a free market and private ownership of means of production and land. The market is controlled by competition.

    You sound as if you are an American who does not like our system you want a change. You seem to agree with Obama that it is good to take from one group to give to another and that capitalism is bad. That is what I meant when I said that our younger citizens have been educated by liberals to believe that America’s system of government should be changed. That of course is your right, but it will require a revolution of sorts because this is not what our constitution allows and we are a nation whose rule of law is the constitution.

    Many who believe that it is good for the government to take from one group of citizens in order to give to another would be against this idea if it were forced on them by one person who used a gun to enforce their decision to redistribute your wealth. Still, I am not trying to frighten you. I would, however, like to educate you.

    Generally speaking, Communism is a failed system and you will find that socialism requires a loss of freedom. There is no other way. You accuse me of not being educated, however, I really am and I can tell you that with government ownership and/or control comes a loss of many of the freedoms we enjoy today.

    Your generation will decide which you prefer, but I suggest that you be certain that you are ready to give up many the freedoms your ancestors fought and died for you to have. They will not easily be regained and not within a lifetime. History teaches this lesson quite well.

  9. jlue permalink
    October 22, 2009 7:12 am

    Cassandra,
    Yes, I have read and looked into Barack Obama’s past. He does have a background of being interested in Marxism. According to David Mendell and others, Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist. Also, according to Mendell, Obama has ties through his community organizing to Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International, and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society, William Ayers and Carl Davidson.

    His own books show that he was interested in Marxism as a youth.

    Some of what has been written about Obama MAY be exaggerated, but what has been written, coupled with the people with whom he surrounds himself gives me and many others reason to be concerned.

    Another idealogy that bothers, me has been evident since he took office and that is the idea that government can solve all of our problems through regulation, legislation, and taxation. There really isn’t even any reason to argue about whether or not he is a socialist. Only a socialist would operate as he has and does. He has more faith in big government than he does in individual initiative and ability. With big government comes control, loss of freedom, excessive taxation and a lowered standard of living for the American people.

    The question now is whether he goes beyond socialism and is actually a Marxist.

    Karl Marx: “Take from each according to his ability, give to each according to his need.”

    Barack Obama: “I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.”

    Obama made the statement on Chicago Public Radio.

    • October 22, 2009 8:39 am

      You’re having a serious problem understanding that there is a difference between Socialism and Communism. Further, you’ve looked into Obama’s past? Where, exactly? Childhood mentor? Come on! For one thing, if we granted that your facts are w/o error (which I’m not – just for sake of argument) you’re resorting to McCarthy-like tactics of guilt by association. You are also just going to have to get used to the fact that the majority no longer gets terrified at the mere mention of the word socialism.

      SDS? Really? 40 years ago! Are we truly going to judge everyone by what they did or didn’t do in their youth? Still, I have no problem w/ ties to SDS or “European socialist groups.” Oooooh, scary! I know: higher standard of living, higher standard of health care, longer life expectancy, lower rates of violent crime, much lower rates of poverty….truly terrifying! You’re going to have to do better to strike that fear in our hearts. Right now, Americans are too worried about keeping their jobs, houses, retirement, etc. given the stellar performance of the deregulated crony-capitalist system we’ve been living under for far too long. If you’re going to get antsy every time someone (including Obama) says something about “redistributive change”, etc., you’re going to be increasingly antsy in coming years.

    • October 22, 2009 9:38 am

      Cassandra, the man with “the funny name” has so unnerved parts of this country that they are practically apoplectic.

      In four years we will be Communist Russia? The funny part is that communism has already been shown to be ineffective. The USSR is no more. China, for all their communism, owns half the United States and does so to make money. So much for communism.

      Folks like Jlue never got the memo that the cold war is over.

      If you’re going to get antsy every time someone (including Obama) says something about “redistributive change”, etc., you’re going to be increasingly antsy in coming years.

      I can only hope you are right about that. We have a culture war going on in this country that is unprecedented. I truly fear that the backlash against Obama’s attempts at reform, will be so great as to take us back to the dark ages.

      That’s why progressives need to stay active and engaged.

  10. jlue permalink
    October 21, 2009 3:19 pm

    I’ve never watched this dude’s show

    Herein lies the problem with most liberals. It is foolish to write about a person if you have never read their book or watched the show.

    His theatrical tactics give left-wing liberals something to carry on about, but his show is far from just theatrical. He has exposed the present administration’s Marxist/communist leanings with documents and videos that cannot be denied. He has invited the white house to call if he makes a false statement. He has zeroed in on what Obama is all about and informed America concerning the men and women who surround Obama.

    Many young Americans are not aware of the dangers of a government who controls the means of production and the media. Those of us who remember worry about those who haven’t been taught. We took too much for granted and assumed that someone was teaching the next generation.

    • October 21, 2009 4:47 pm

      Geez, Louise!
      Everyone is free to comment on my blog, so welcome. But, really? Marxist/communist leanings?

      I’m not sure that you get your information from any source other than Beck. And that’s far more dangerous than your imaginary fear of a government that “controls the means of production and the media.” For one thing, if you don’t actually understand an ideology, it’s not a good idea to accuse others of holding that ideology. Do a little scholarly reading (not Beck’s books, or any of those lunatics he promotes on his website, but actual neutral analysis of political and economic theory.)

      You know what I absolutely do not worry about? The poor generation that hasn’t properly “been taught” to fear the Great Red Menace. I say thank goodness! We can look forward to a government run with competence and wisdom rather than fear and demagoguery.

    • October 21, 2009 6:36 pm

      LOLZ! You think government controls the media?

      My comment was based on the video that this blogger so graciously shared with us. If you believe that dude is sincere then you are beyond help.

      People make big money selling hate and lies. I wonder if that is any motivation.

  11. October 21, 2009 10:48 am

    Also, I don’t think he needs Zoloft. He needs a heroin IV drip. With the valve all the way open.

  12. October 21, 2009 10:46 am

    There’s a really good line in one of the songs on Steve Martin’s new banjo album, “The Crow”, that fits Little Miss Becky to a T:

    “Memories of a time that never was become the good old days”

  13. PolySci Major permalink
    October 21, 2009 10:03 am

    Zoloft! Glenn Beck needs a straight jacket until the court can order a lobotomy!

  14. Marty Sinjohn permalink
    October 20, 2009 10:48 am

    Let’s not forget that Beck is an Alcoholic who appears to be on a well paid dry drunk. I know quite a bit about this phenomenon.

    I have no idea how long Beck bathed his nervous system in a sedative anesthetic or when he quit doing so. It does seem that he did some damage. If so, he may experience off-the-wall emotional tirades of one sort or the other. It’s all a part of recovery and it can last for years.

    For the good of the country, I wish he would stick to print opinion. But one can never tell. Someone, as clearly out of control as Beck, might serve a good purpose in the long run. He gives a face and voice to an unbalanced segment of America. Not everyone who watches him agrees with him, but watching him for some people is like watching a train wreck. You know it’s gonna be horrific but you can’t take your eyes off it.

    I’ve tried to watch. I wanted to see what all the fuss is about. It didn’t take long for me to grab the clicker. I used to get paid a nice salary for listening to people like Beck. I’m retired now and no longer need to do that.

    The man should have no credibility with anyone.

  15. Trip permalink
    October 20, 2009 7:48 am

    “Your dad was right.” That pretty well sums up Glenn Beck and his shtick. He uses words like “truth” and “reality” but he’s not interested in either. Instead, he bathes himself in the yellowish glow of a Norman Rockwell past that never existed to create a phony catharsis, a longing to resurrect the Dead Father, and I’m certain that some of his viewers “cry” right along with him. If this were all he did, he’d be just another Fox clown, but the wingnuts who recently marched on the mall in DC suggest that he’s playing a dangerous game.

  16. Thatonetallguy permalink
    October 20, 2009 7:27 am

    All you need to see is the video on the middle of this story that shows Glen Beck deliberately using Vicks Vapo-rub to hype up his crying session. ( http://bit.ly/3SNtHw )

    This man is certifiably mentally ill. (You can also read Slate for his alcoholic cheating saved again Mormon John Bircher political fringe background here: http://bit.ly/DgneO )

    This man is a menace to rational people everywhere and an embarassment to our Country.

  17. October 20, 2009 7:10 am

    Cassandra, Glenn Beck is clearly too much! The only thing I would caution those who dismiss him for displays like the one in the video you posted, is that every now and then he tries to back up his nutty ideas with some book-learnin’.

    I wrote about it here (sorry for the blogpimping) if you or your readers are interested:

    http://rutherfordl.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/is-glenn-beck-an-intellectual/

  18. October 17, 2009 7:07 am

    I’ve never watched this dude’s show, but of this video, I can only say, “Wow!” What a pure load of tripe and histrionics. The only thing this video is good for is causing a side ache from the amount of belly laughs! It’s like an academy award scene only completely devoid of any acting ability.

    The guy may have some semblance of a point that is worthy of discussion but the way he goes about making it only makes me wet my pants.

    I’m glad I invested the 4:19 of my life to watch that clip. It was so worth it.

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